Free Flower Shipping: Molnar v. 1-800-Flowers.

by Infinite on January 23, 2010

Back in November 2007, a large group of local florists, spearheaded by FlowerChat, sent a letter to the Federal Trade Commission urging an investigation into 1-800-Flowers advertising claims of ‘free shipping’ on orders taken by the company and fulfilled by local florists.  We contended the company was discounting a service/convenience fee labeled as a ‘shipping charge’, but that 1-800-Flowers also added an additional delivery charge (approx. $7.99) into the price of each florist-delivered flower item displayed on the site. In short, we believed the ‘free shipping’ claim to be untrue and deceptive.

Why would this matter to local florists?

Local flower shops have customers who walk into our stores and pick up flowers and bouquets. The vast majority do not display prices ‘including delivery’ because the added costs would penalize the customers who do stop in and make self-purchases. We break out the fees so shoppers aren’t required to pay for services they don’t need.

Internet-only flower sellers don’t stock flowers so everything they sell has to be delivered. Most display prices which combine the local delivery charge with the floral product and then add a separate service/convenience fee, which they keep. Many customers mistakenly believe the service fees pay directly for local delivery, when they do not.

By discounting the ’service charges’ and calling them ’shipping charges’, consumers were mislead to believe they paid nothing for delivery. This made honest local florists appear over-priced. Consumers were being diverted through deceptive ads.

Itemizing Fees

For more than 6 decades, wire services (affiliate networks) like FTD required florists to itemize all fees to consumers: product, delivery charge, service or relay fee. This let shoppers know where their money was being allocated and added a layer of transparency to the way sales were handled. Failing to itemize fees was grounds for a fine or suspension from a wire service.

Even earlier in this decade, FTD included a disclosure on the page of each florist-delivered product:

“Delivery is included in the price of the arrangement. An $8.99 service charge plus local taxes is added to this arrangement.”

The company learned consumers balked at paying delivery and service charges, so the delivery disclosure simply moved to a far-away page and the service fee (now approx. $15) doesn’t appear until the consumers is well into the shopping cart.  Like 1-800-Flowers, FTD now places that information away from the product pages, where it would most likely be seen and understood by shoppers.

Local Flower Delivery by Florists

Each floral wire service (1-800-Flowers/BloomNet, FTD, Teleflora and FloralSource)  has agreements with local florists stating the businesses can deduct their own local delivery fees from the total values of orders prior to filling them. ‘Free delivery’ is nowhere to be found in those agreements.

Additionally, padding in local delivery charges and then claiming ‘free delivery’ or ‘free shipping’ is specifically prohibited by the FTC Guidelines.

Class Action Lawsuit

1-800-Flowers has recently announced a proposed settlement in a class action lawsuit that addressed the issue of those ‘free shipping’ ads -  Monlar v 1-800-Flowers. Class members (qualified purchasers who bought between March 1, 2006 and February 5, 2008) will receive $10 vouchers -  requiring yet more purchases from the company, and the vouchers cannot be used during the two major floral holidays: Valentine’s Day and Mother’s Day.

I concur with author Lahle Wolfe in her summary of the suit on About.com:
“Customers who have been overcharged by any company deserve an apology and a refund. Providing credits for future purchases is a tremendous disservice to customers who were ripped off by 1-800-Flowers.com in the past. In order to get back money for being unfairly and deceptively overcharged, they must now spend even more money.”

Consumers overpaid (were charged for local shipping/deliver) by approximately $7 – 8 per order and the most fair way to handle this would be to send them refund checks.

More ‘Free Delivery’

The latest to join the ‘free delivery’ camp is IAC owned floraflora.com, which uses a floral wire service for florist-delivered order distribution and yet claims “free delivery by your local florists” on many products.

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Again, it’s a very persuasive claim – but it’s also an FTC Guildeline violating ruse intended to diverts shoppers away from local businesses and other competitors that itemize fees. A company can certainly advertise an all-inclusive price, but they can’t tell you it’s free when you’ve actually paid for it.

Whether its ‘free delivery’, ‘free shipping’ and even ‘free vase’ claims – when sold and delivered via a florist affiliate network, the advertising just isn’t true.

Here’s hoping more class action lawyers will take interest in this issue.

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Online Florists: Whither the ethics?

by Infinite on November 29, 2009

Last month the two biggest names in online flowers, 1800FLOWERS.com and FTD.com, were summoned by the US Senate Commerce Committee for records of their participation in post transactional marketing programs labeled “scams,” “robbery” and “theft” by both angry consumers and US Senators. iStock_000010794726XSmall

The congressional report lists both 1-800-Flowers and FTD as having received more than $10 million each in ‘bounties’ for turning shoppers’ credit card numbers over to investigation targets Affinion, Vertrue, and Webloyalty. Another division of FTD’s parent company United Online (UNTD), Classmates.com, raked in more than $70 million in the scheme.

Read CNET News coverage of the hearing here.

The CEO of FTD’s parent company, United Online was featured in a scathing article by Greg Sandoval of CNET News for having the temerity to blame the victims for being tricked by the smoke and mirrors ‘discount’ offers which ended up costing each duped shopper $10 to $20 monthly.

FTD is doubly dubious because they unwittingly enrolled all their thousands of websites hosted for local florist in WebLoyalty’s program and made it an ‘opt out’ – so some of the brick and mortar stores also felt the ire of fooled consumers. According to congressional records, The FTD local florist program, FTD Florists Online, netted the company between $1 and $10 Million in bounties, too.

Note to CEOs of both FTD and 1-800-Flowers: You can’t market the beauty and emotional benefits of flowers in the front of your sites while picking shoppers’ pockets at the back – and earn loyal fans.

It’s not just FTD.com and 1-800-Flowers.com

Another notable national flower seller, ProFlowers.com, has also received myriad complaints about it’s post transactional marketing agreement with a company called EZSVER. EZSVER was not part of the Senate investigations, but the net result is the same – consumers claim to have been unwittingly enrolled in an automatically debited ‘club’ after being offered ‘free shipping’ or a future discount.

Ethical lapses

From The Motley Fool: It’s a Dot-Com Minefield by Rick Aristotle Munarriz -

“The bigger problem, though, is that investors will question the ethics of these online merchants that have no problem handing over billing information in deceptive add-on deals.”

They should.

FTD, especially, used to be the ethical standard bearer of the flower business. The logo was synonymous with trust in flowers and florists. Not anymore.

Too much of the online flower world in the last decade has been built on lapses in ethics by the retail industry leadership, including:

- paying large bounties and commissions to affiliates who use false addresses and deceptive advertising to mislead consumers into believing they are purchasing from legitimate local florists in a community.

- using product photos that show more flowers than the recipes and descriptions they provide to local florists who actually make the deliveries.

- misleading consumers into believing the extra service charges ($12.99-19.99) actually pay for shipping and local delivery. (The companies pocket those fees and by contract, the florists subtract their delivery charges from the prices indicated on the products.)

Whither the ethics indeed… Paging Senator Rockefeller.

More coverage of the Senate hearings:

PC Magazine: Is Your Favorite E-Commerce Site Ripping You Off? by Chloe Albanisius

Information Week: Lawmakers Slam Deceptive Marketers by Thomas Clayburn

The Associated Press: Senators Blast Web sites for Scamming Shoppers by Lolita C./ Baldor

Washington Post: Rockefeller takes on aggressive online sales tactics, report finds firms misleading consumers by Cecilia King

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Fall is in the air~!

September 18, 2009

Can you feel it yet?  We do here in Michigan… Fall is in the air!
The hot muggy days of summer have given way to the cooler and dryer days of Fall with their Autumn hues of gold, orange, bronze, yellow and accents of green and purple.  We’re always excited for the seasonal changes in the [...]

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Louisiana Florists

July 7, 2009

New Orleans LA Florist
Harkins the Florist
1601 Magazine ST
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Tool Free # 800-960-1638
Phone # 504-529-1638

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FlowerChat Logo Design Contest Winners

July 2, 2009

Throughout the month of June the FlowerChat membership was hard at work sifting through numerous submissions for the FlowerChat Logo Design contest. Submissions were collected in May and voted on in groups (American Idol style) until the top batch was unveiled.
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New Mexico Florists

June 19, 2009

Taos NM Florist
The Enchanted Florist
233 C Paseo del Pueblo Sur
Taos NM 87571
Phone # 575-758-3030

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Utah Florists

June 18, 2009

Salt Lake City UT Florist
Huddart Floral Company
156 E 900 South
Salt Lake City UT 84108
Toll Free # 800-334-5683
Phone # 801-531-7900

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Arizona Florists

June 18, 2009

Tempe AZ Florist
My Fantasy Florals
2125 S 48th ST #101
Tempe AZ 85282
Phone # 480-516-6365

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Connecticut Florists

June 18, 2009

Bloomfield CT Florist
TK and Browns Flowers
38 Tunxis Ave
Bloomfield CT 06002
Phone # 860-243-8882
Southbury CT Florist
Flore
33 Bullet Hill RD #3
Southbury CT 06488
Phone # 203-405-1760

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Nevada Florists

June 18, 2009

Las Vegas NV Florist
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Phone # 702-997-0222
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Moana Florist & Nursery
1100 W Moana Lane
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Toll Free # 877-630-1124
Phone # 775-825-0671

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